2022-23 Flyers: How about just less suck?

[lasgop8]

How long do we keep DeAngelo?

Does he go over the summer or do we wait until the deadline?

What are the benefits or ramifications of both?

 

[lasgop8]

Future Flyer Tyson Foerster Named To AHL’s Top Prospects Team

Phantoms forward Tyson Foerster, expected to compete for a spot on the Flyers next season, was named to the inaugural AHL Top Prospects Team. Foerster, 21, led Lehigh Valley in scoring with 20 goals and 28 assists in 66 games. He also scored two goals in a Game 1 playoff victory at Charlotte...

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Finally some good news from our farm system.

 

[lasgop8]

Meet Helge Grans- One Part Of The Ivan Provorov Trade – FLYERS NITTY GRITTY

Photo Credit: Juan Ocampo/NHLI via Getty Images In the early afternoon hours of June 6th, 2023, it was announced that Ivan Provorov was being traded from the Philadelphia Flyers. Not only was he being traded, but it was a three team deal. The details are below: Flyers receive: 2023 First Round...

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He is interesting to me. He's 21 and has good size and only 7 defenseman were drafted ahead of him in the 2020 draft.

 

[Chris p Bacon]

Meet Helge Grans- One Part Of The Ivan Provorov Trade – FLYERS NITTY GRITTY

Photo Credit: Juan Ocampo/NHLI via Getty Images In the early afternoon hours of June 6th, 2023, it was announced that Ivan Provorov was being traded from the Philadelphia Flyers. Not only was he being traded, but it was a three team deal. The details are below: Flyers receive: 2023 First Round...

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He is interesting to me. He's 21 and has good size and only 7 defenseman were drafted ahead of him in the 2020 draft.

Couldn't be any worse than anything we have now.

 

[lasgop8]

Bacon this is for you: Todays mock draft from the Athletic:


7. Philadelphia Flyers (Pick by Corey Pronman): David Reinbacher, RHD, Kloten
I’m thrilled to get the best defenseman in the draft in Reinbacher to couple with a premium center prospect in Cutter Gauthier. Those are two big, competitive, skilled players who can play at an NHL pace. This is not a no-brainer at No. 7 but I’m taking him and feeling very good about getting both the best player available and filling a premium position with someone whose gotten it done versus pros this season.

 

[lasgop8]

Other than his size, I have been reading real good things about Zach Benson. Should be available at 7.

Zach Benson moved up to the number 6 slot on todays Athletic mock draft.

 

[awaz]

How long do we keep DeAngelo?

Does he go over the summer or do we wait until the deadline?

What are the benefits or ramifications of both?

I think if he and Torts can coexist to the deadline, that's the play. Shelter him at 5on5 and give him PP1 and hope he can bounce back some offensively. If he does, eat 50% at the deadline and we might be able to get a decent pick or prospect back for him.

If he's going to mess up the room because he/Torts can't figure it out, might as well move him now to whoever will take him without sweeteners.

 

[lasgop8]

I think if he and Torts can coexist to the deadline, that's the play. Shelter him at 5on5 and give him PP1 and hope he can bounce back some offensively. If he does, eat 50% at the deadline and we might be able to get a decent pick or prospect back for him.

If he's going to mess up the room because he/Torts can't figure it out, might as well move him now to whoever will take him without sweeteners.

I agree with this but i dont think he needs to bounce back offensively as he had a solid offensive season. He needs to play a more defensive style that Torts likes while still putting up his offensive stats. That would be ideal and make him very valuable at the deadline if he can make it there.

 

[awaz]

I agree with this but i dont think he needs to bounce back offensively as he had a solid offensive season. He needs to play a more defensive style that Torts likes while still putting up his offensive stats. That would be ideal and make him very valuable at the deadline if he can make it there.

You're right. Would be great if he could get more defense in his game and keep the offense where it is. I just don't think he will add the defense haha. He doesn't seem to care one bit about getting better in that regard.

So i'm just hoping for more offense. But I'm also not sure he gets enough playing time to do that with Torts demanding his defense improve. Which is why if I were to put money on it, I'd bet he moves before the season starts.

 

[awaz]

Meet Helge Grans- One Part Of The Ivan Provorov Trade – FLYERS NITTY GRITTY

Photo Credit: Juan Ocampo/NHLI via Getty Images In the early afternoon hours of June 6th, 2023, it was announced that Ivan Provorov was being traded from the Philadelphia Flyers. Not only was he being traded, but it was a three team deal. The details are below: Flyers receive: 2023 First Round...

flyersnittygritty.com

He is interesting to me. He's 21 and has good size and only 7 defenseman were drafted ahead of him in the 2020 draft.

Agreed. Seems like he could be a pretty good depth guy. I think Meltzer said he paired with Andrae a good bit too in SWE or for SWE. Could be a duo to watch for.

 

[lasgop8]

You're right. Would be great if he could get more defense in his game and keep the offense where it is. I just don't think he will add the defense haha. He doesn't seem to care one bit about getting better in that regard.

So i'm just hoping for more offense. But I'm also not sure he gets enough playing time to do that with Torts demanding his defense improve. Which is why if I were to put money on it, I'd bet he moves before the season starts.

If he goes before the season starts (which id prefer) we clear cap space and then Attard/Zamula will get much needed NHL experience.

 

[Chris p Bacon]

How long do we keep DeAngelo?

Does he go over the summer or do we wait until the deadline?

What are the benefits or ramifications of both?

I've been hearing him linked to Edmonton, not sure what the return would be.

 

[lasgop8]

REPORT: Philadelphia Flyers’ Kevin Hayes Involved in Trade Talks

Just two days after trading Ivan Provorov to the Columbus Blue Jackets, the Philadelphia Flyers have reportedly in trade talks involving Kevin Hayes.

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[Chris p Bacon]

REPORT: Philadelphia Flyers’ Kevin Hayes Involved in Trade Talks

Just two days after trading Ivan Provorov to the Columbus Blue Jackets, the Philadelphia Flyers have reportedly in trade talks involving Kevin Hayes.

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[Maverick426h]

I think one of the biggest fuck-ups by Fletcher as a GM in Philly was signing Hayes to that 7 year, $50 million contract which also now includes a modified no-trade clause.

Fortunately, Kevin Hayes did have a career year, but he can still submit a list of 12 teams that he cannot be traded to, which could really throw a wrench into our situation.

But yeah, we're currently paying $7.142 million against the cap per season for a guy who averages the production of a really good 3rd line center. He also has three damn entire years left on the contract. Would be nice if that were a year or two less.

Also, Travis Sanheim's deal is for 8 years and $50 million. He has a full no-trade clause for 4 whole seasons and then it drops to the same clause Hayes currently has.

Basically, if Sanheim doesn't live up that that contract, we're stuck with him anyway for 4 seasons and at that point, who the fuck is going to take him off our hands if he's underwhelming?

 

[mall3013]

I think one of the biggest fuck-ups by Fletcher as a GM in Philly was signing Hayes to that 7 year, $50 million contract which also now includes a modified no-trade clause.

Fortunately, Kevin Hayes did have a career year, but he can still submit a list of 12 teams that he cannot be traded to, which could really throw a wrench into our situation.

But yeah, we're currently paying $7.142 million against the cap per season for a guy who averages the production of a really good 3rd line center. He also has three damn entire years left on the contract. Would be nice if that were a year or two less.

Also, Travis Sanheim's deal is for 8 years and $50 million. He has a full no-trade clause for 4 whole seasons and then it drops to the same clause Hayes currently has.

Basically, if Sanheim doesn't live up that that contract, we're stuck with him anyway for 4 seasons and at that point, who the fuck is going to take him off our hands if he's underwhelming?

In other words, CF fucked us for a few more years. I can't imagine he will find work anytime soon unless in a booth on tv.

 

[awaz]

Im narrowed down to hoping for:

Benson/Reinbacher/Leonard at #7
Heidt/Moore at #22 (doubt Moore falls quite that far)

 

[purdue81]

In other words, CF fucked us for a few more years. I can't imagine he will find work anytime soon unless in a booth on tv.

Guessing WTFC and Hextall’s phones have been quiet.

 

[mall3013]

Im narrowed down to hoping for:

Benson/Reinbacher/Leonard at #7
Heidt/Moore at #22 (doubt Moore falls quite that far)

I'm starting to like Reinbacher a bit.

 

[awaz]

Can’t decide how plugged in this DiMarco guy is but that’s pretty promising on a potential Laughton return.