NFL 24 Player Playoff Game 4

My roster did have issues so I can see it bowing out. My original plan was to draft Tiki Barber which would have freed up more money for other spots but I really do think historically football is about running the football, having an elite QB, having a defense that doesn't give up touchdowns and running the football. I think the game has changed with YPA and advanced stats but it hasn't changed that much if you just look at the last few Super Bowls

Clayton has the 2 offensive players on his roster with Montana and brown. I think this would be a tough game and have to go with Clayton to win. Sorry nos. It was a very tough decision.

Ritzarmy said:

Clayton has the 2 offensive players on his roster with Montana and brown. I think this would be a tough game and have to go with Clayton to win. Sorry nos. It was a very tough decision.

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No need to be sorry little brutha, these drafts are fun because of the drafting and the talking after the draft. I don't care if I win although I do need the $$$

We need Smitty's rankings & votes!!!

Nosferatu said:

No need to be sorry little brutha, these drafts are fun because of the drafting and the talking after the draft. I don't care if I win although I do need the $$$

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I can't believe I voted for Smitty over myself. I must be getting sick.

Ritzarmy said:

I can't believe I voted for Smitty over myself. I must be getting sick.

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Yeah, I am sick today, came to work anyhow... Been a nice slow day for me, everyone knows to leave me alone...

Honestly Ritz the only way it would matter is if Smitty ends up voting for you, if he votes for himself then you voting for him doesn't change anything.

Nosferatu said:

Yeah, I am sick today, came to work anyhow... Been a nice slow day for me, everyone knows to leave me alone...

Honestly Ritz the only way it would matter is if Smitty ends up voting for you, if he votes for himself then you voting for him doesn't change anything.

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Smitty already voted for himself. I could have voted for myself and caused a tie. Doesn't matter he had a good team and hope he does well in playoffs. Plus I don't need the Vcash right now.

Smitty didnt vote for himself I put his name in the people who voted when I voted for him...

We still need his rankings and votes...

Clayton said:

Hater lol.

I think Id win this but Im okay with bowing out. I do find it odd that people are knocking Steve Smith and Plaxico Burress. These guys were real game changers in the playoffs which is more than I can say about 75% of the WRs on here.

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Just being honest here, but there is no way you should have a $1mil player unless he's a kicker or Punter and even then I would try to go with somebody better... If you're starting guys who can't even make 1 probowl, it's hard for me to think he's not going to get exploited... You have 3 not including your kickers... I like your defense... But offensively you're facing a solid defense and your interior is very weak which means you're wasting Brown... Unless you plan on sweeps and off tackle stuff, and hope Ray doesn't blow up the play before it gets moving... It's a bad matchup IMO...

Smitty where are ya man?

wlk3 said:

Just being honest here, but there is no way you should have a $1mil player unless he's a kicker or Punter and even then I would try to go with somebody better... If you're starting guys who can't even make 1 probowl, it's hard for me to think he's not going to get exploited... You have 3 not including your kickers... I like your defense... But offensively you're facing a solid defense and your interior is very weak which means you're wasting Brown... Unless you plan on sweeps and off tackle stuff, and hope Ray doesn't blow up the play before it gets moving... It's a bad matchup IMO...

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That is BS... absolute BS!!! Really what is the difference between these 2 MIL who many have only made 1 pro-bowl to a 1 mil?? Its a risk taking 1 mil, but to have a couple in some correct spots is not a big deal... The whole point of the salary cap is to make the best roster you can in a budget, i don't think 1 mil players hurt if the rest of the team is good...

MilkSpiller22 said:

That is BS... absolute BS!!! Really what is the difference between these 2 MIL who many have only made 1 pro-bowl to a 1 mil?? Its a risk taking 1 mil, but to have a couple in some correct spots is not a big deal... The whole point of the salary cap is to make the best roster you can in a budget, i don't think 1 mil players hurt if the rest of the team is good...

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I should have the worst team then because I only spent $118M compared to everyone's $120M.

MilkSpiller22 said:

That is BS... absolute BS!!! Really what is the difference between these 2 MIL who many have only made 1 pro-bowl to a 1 mil?? Its a risk taking 1 mil, but to have a couple in some correct spots is not a big deal... The whole point of the salary cap is to make the best roster you can in a budget, i don't think 1 mil players hurt if the rest of the team is good...

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I hear you but the difference between a guy with 1 probowl and 0 Probowls is ability... We are talking the best of the best... If your not even good enough to make a probowl you're simply not good enough... And for what it's worth I don't think anybody grabbed a 1 probowl guy... But let's say for the record somebody did... A player that did make 1 probowl may have been a pretty good play, they just had some absolute beasts at his same position that held him up... Just getting your foot in the door means your above average... There is a price scale for a reason... People like Pat Tillman is the exception because he showed he was starting to get good but left the game... Sean Taylor and Bo Jackson were high risk high reward... Some people will love it because they had the potential Nos shut it down... But for you to run around with and start 2 of your WR and an olineman facing the best players of they respective eras is asking to lose IMO...

wlk3 said:

I hear you but the difference between a guy with 1 probowl and 0 Probowls is ability... We are talking the best of the best... If your not even good enough to make a probowl you're simply not good enough... And for what it's worth I don't think anybody grabbed a 1 probowl guy... But let's say for the record somebody did... A player that did make 1 probowl may have been a pretty good play, they just had some absolute beasts at his same position that held him up... Just getting your foot in the door means your above average... There is a price scale for a reason... People like Pat Tillman is the exception because he showed he was starting to get good but left the game... Sean Taylor and Bo Jackson were high risk high reward... Some people will love it because they had the potential Nos shut it down... But for you to run around with and start 2 of your WR and an olineman facing the best players of they respective eras is asking to lose IMO...

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Sean Taylor was on track to being an all-time great safety. He was an outstanding pick

wlk3 said:

I hear you but the difference between a guy with 1 probowl and 0 Probowls is ability... We are talking the best of the best... If your not even good enough to make a probowl you're simply not good enough... And for what it's worth I don't think anybody grabbed a 1 probowl guy... But let's say for the record somebody did... A player that did make 1 probowl may have been a pretty good play, they just had some absolute beasts at his same position that held him up... Just getting your foot in the door means your above average... There is a price scale for a reason... People like Pat Tillman is the exception because he showed he was starting to get good but left the game... Sean Taylor and Bo Jackson were high risk high reward... Some people will love it because they had the potential Nos shut it down... But for you to run around with and start 2 of your WR and an olineman facing the best players of they respective eras is asking to lose IMO...

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In this particular matchup though, Clayton's weak WRs shouldn't be a game changer... Nos, had great CBs so even if he had good WRs, you have to assume Nos, CBs would have given him a headache no matter what... Weakness vs strength just means the team would focus more on something else... And That something else is the running game, where Nos, is not as strong...

I also think you are under estimating one mil players... I drafted 2(besides my kicker and punter), Hitchcock had one season that was just as good as any all pro player, Simon fletcher played for over 10 seasons(he must have been good enough)... Just because they were one mil doesn't mean they weren't good... And if they are playing with greats, there responsibilities are likely limited... And it is not like Burress or Kennison were even that bad, they were both pretty good WRs...

First, Clayton I agree Sean Taylor was going to be my #3 pick... Bo Jackson was also a great pick IMO, but that may have been my favorite player growing up bias... He was more of who I was speaking of with the Nos shut it down... I grabbed Boselli and Erik Williams know how good they were eventhough injury hit them both sort of early... It's a risk anytime you grab somebody who never completely finished their career IMO...

As to the $1mil player... You talk about the strength being the run game because of the CB/WR matchup being a mismatch... Now look at who he starts at RG... If your strength depends on your Oline dominating why would your Oline not be a priority... Nos made a point about pass rush... And he's right to an extent, if you average 2 sacks a game in a season, you're likely up for DPOY... But in the run game it's a lot tougher because he doesn't have to beat you then run down the QB all before the QB throws the ball... His job is to create pileups and/or take up as many blockers as possible so the LBs can make the plays... So to your point $1mil LBs can succeed with a dominant Dline but now way should you have an Oline man without a probowl... On to the LB, he may be able to play the run with a great Dline but he may be exposed in the pass game... If he played 10 years and never made at least 1 probowl, that tells me he never dominated... I'd guess he never won a ring either, and they paid him the minimum... I'm sure he could play but he would be the guy I would go out of my to attack on crucial situations...

Wlk, that is a good point that clayton's offensive line is not that great too, so if running is going to be his strength, he has a bit of a disadvantage... I was really just arguing your point that 1 mil players should not be taken... I will agree Clayton made a huge mistake with not balancing his team... But it wasn't the one million players fault... if it was a 2 mil player, he would be having the same problems...
And again, if you hide a 1 mil player well, it should not even matter, because their role would be limited...
Also, it is said that great WRs are made from good QBs and vice versa... Jerry Rice is seen to be the best WR of all time, and the reason why is partially because he had one of the best QBs of all time, the same is true the other way too, but the point is that you can be one of the most talented QBs or WRs and if you have nobody throwing to you or nobody to catch the ball then you are not going to be great... Just look at Larry Fitzgerald when he did not have a good QB!!! And on a lesser stage look at Eli Manning, when he got odell Beckham he became an elite QB again, while the previous season with an injured Cruz, eli had one of the worst seasons of all time...

Can either of you explain how I lost to Smitty's team? His team was so bad that he ran off in embarrassment over it and hasn't come back.

MilkSpiller22 said:

I will agree Clayton made a huge mistake with not balancing his team...

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I made a couple of mistakes due to not fully knowing the rules when I was drafting. I let 4 or 5 picks go because I thought 2nd team All Pro counted. I also didn't double check 1 or 2 of my picks and they cost me more than I thought. My phone sucks for navigation and I spent that weekend with my gf.

Ultimately, though, this is about 90% opinion and philosophy.

Ritzarmy said:

Can either of you explain how I lost to Smitty's team? His team was so bad that he ran off in embarrassment over it and hasn't come back.

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I dont understand how i lost either, but according to WLK it is because i had too many 1 MIL players...