IL is broke. Teachers still want 30% raise.

[fordman84]

Originally Posted by raptorlife4

Well I guess we can agree there is a happy medium then

LOL, it's a start and I guess I'll take it.

[JuiceTheGator]

Originally Posted by raptorlife4

Well I guess we can agree there is a happy medium then

Hey Raptor, seriously, welcome to the politics forum. Don't be afraid to say what you want and if anyone gets all butthurt about something you said it's not your problem. Politics, like hockey, isn't for those afraid to get punched.

[fordman84]

Originally Posted by HuskerInSecLand

I had a 28 oz. ribeye cooked medium the other day. It made me very happy.
I want more though.

Did you have it for lunch? That would make you cooler.


Sorry, I doubt anyone here gets that unless they listen to The Ticket here in Dallas or realize what a huge d-bag CJ Wilson is.

[raptorlife4]

Originally Posted by JuiceTheGator

Hey Raptor, seriously, welcome to the politics forum. Don't be afraid to say what you want and if anyone gets all butthurt about something you said it's not your problem. Politics, like hockey, isn't for those afraid to get punched.

Hey trust me I can handle it. As you see I like to throw a few as well.

[JuiceTheGator]

Good. Now get back to your commune you pink bastid.

[PIBuckeye]

Originally Posted by huskers1217

U jelly of teachers?

hell no, but they don't deserve a raise when the country is in shambles.

get it?

and I'm sick of teachers whining about how terrible they have it. they need to STFU.

[PIBuckeye]

Originally Posted by Leader O'Cola

is this what you truly believe teachers' jobs entail ?

You truly think I don't know any teachers? Yea, I know what their job entails....

[PIBuckeye]

Originally Posted by raptorlife4

Your comparision has ZERO to do with the actual topic.



Since unions have been reduced the economy has taken a dive, is that the only reason? No, but it is one of the reasons.

Again unions are the only people fighting to keep workers heads above water.

raptor......

unions are nothing but coffers for the demorat party. plain and simple.

[PIBuckeye]

Originally Posted by raptorlife4

Na the anti union cycle is almost done. These things swings to both sides. People are realizing who the real crooks are, and its not the people who live on there streets working a front line job within a union

lol, think so? Unions have been going downhill in membership for what, 30+ years? and the recent happenings and trends only indicate that will continue. the general public is no longer in the dark about what truly goes on in a union.

[PIBuckeye]

Originally Posted by olympicoscar

During summer "vacation," I went to required seminars, worked on book committees, wrote lesson plans, reworked how and what I would teach and constantly searched for new websites and charts and graphs to help students.

I never left school before 5PM and always started at 7AM. In Texas, after 12 years I was making 49K. Salaries are higher up north, but so is the cost of living. I was on stress pills for all 12 years of my time spent as a teacher.

Try it sometime, not as easy as it seems.

whatever, if thats true you are were in the minority.....

I have college buddies that laugh about the whole scenario, they aren't strong or into the FORCED teachers union bs, they just enjoy their life. They put in some extra time the first few years to tweak their lesson plans, tests, etc. and now they do nothing outside of school....... I don't have any ill will towards them at all, I could've taken that path too.......

[olympicoscar]

Originally Posted by fordman84

companies are not profitable. Pensions are outdated and should be converted and done away with. Poverty wages? BS. You don't need to be making $25/hr to put a wheel on a car or torque a bolt on an engine.

Remember, if teachers are getting a pension they're not paying into the social security system. That's how I got mine.

[olympicoscar]

Originally Posted by fordman84

The Mavs Championship is responsible for the gas price increase! LOL


Good thing the Cowboys suck!

I think we're gonna sign Randy Moss and get Terrell Owens back. Then we'll be America's bad ass team. Maybe add Chad Ochocinco and Albert Haynesworth and we be the double bad ass team.

[olympicoscar]

Originally Posted by fordman84

Did you have it for lunch? That would make you cooler.


Sorry, I doubt anyone here gets that unless they listen to The Ticket here in Dallas or realize what a huge d-bag CJ Wilson is.

I gave up on the ticket. Couldn't stand their schtick. Dunham and Miller still around?

[olympicoscar]

Originally Posted by PIBuckeye

whatever, if thats true you are were in the minority.....

I have college buddies that laugh about the whole scenario, they aren't strong or into the FORCED teachers union bs, they just enjoy their life. They put in some extra time the first few years to tweak their lesson plans, tests, etc. and now they do nothing outside of school....... I don't have any ill will towards them at all, I could've taken that path too.......

Oh I know I was in the minority. Some of them use to come to me and ask to steal my lesson plans. I put it on the computer in a place that anyone from the faculty could copy it. I also made up all the homework assignments for them, printed tests for them and the study guides. For all of that I got nothing except the respect of the 8th grade teachers, because my kids knew the basics of American History which I taught along with Texas History.

[fordman84]

Originally Posted by olympicoscar

I gave up on the ticket. Couldn't stand their schtick. Dunham and Miller still around?

Yup, they are the morning show. I'm a fan of them with Gordo, then Norm, then Bob and Dan, and finally the hard line. Can't listen to the late night stuff or weekend crap.

[fordman84]

Originally Posted by raptorlife4

Na the anti union cycle is almost done. These things swings to both sides. People are realizing who the real crooks are, and its not the people who live on there streets working a front line job within a union

anti-union stuff almost done, you say? BS I said. Looks like the biggest litmus test for anti-union sentiment is still Wisconsin's Governor Walker and the recall vote by unions.

Poll: Wisconsin's Walker to survive union recall drive | Washington Examiner


So they appear to be throwing everything they can at Walker, but things are turning around like he said they would with the contract changes he put in place, and the non-union people are seeing how well it has worked. Next up, roll the plan out to the rest of America.

[NorthCoastSteelersFan]

I'm not in a union. But just thought I'd mention. Ohio's governor and state legislature tried the same thing that was done in Wisconsin. Passed it despite all the protests. But the unions got enough signatures to force a referendum on the issue, and the voters blew it clean out of the water. Our Gov's butt is still sore from that one.

So I'm not so sure that unions are "finished" in this country. Wisconsin may prove to be an anomaly, not the start of a trend.

[fordman84]

Originally Posted by NorthCoastSteelersFan

I'm not in a union. But just thought I'd mention. Ohio's governor and state legislature tried the same thing that was done in Wisconsin. Passed it despite all the protests. But the unions got enough signatures to force a referendum on the issue, and the voters blew it clean out of the water. Our Gov's butt is still sore from that one.

So I'm not so sure that unions are "finished" in this country. Wisconsin may prove to be an anomaly, not the start of a trend.

Wisconsin will be the poster for boy for "bust unions and cut costs" if they turn a surplus.