Questions for you card carriers

[ForkEmBucky]

Originally Posted by Driaz

So more then just me say this to you??? LMFAO!!!!!!

It's not paranoia if we are all actually out to get you.......

Yes. All of the other Husker fans who acted like kindergarteners after Wisconsin won. Maybe you all just didn't notice anything was wrong because you treat every fan base the same way when your team loses.

[MarkOU]

Originally Posted by Driaz

Ok, I claimed I wouldn't respond to you when I was drunk and sarcastic, so I'll respond to your post now without being sarcastic....or at least as not sarcastic as I'm capable of....

If George Bush Sr is the man that controls the entire country, why did he leave his most powerful position as head of CIA (and the country, and the world) to run on a ticket to become the vice fucking president?????

I'm sure there isn't much of a pay difference between head of CIA and Vice President to leave behind all his power to control the country en sech. Dammit....there's my sarcasm coming into play....

...oh right.....he was just being vice President to throw off all folks not as smart as y'all.....fucking sarcasm again.....

Ok, non sarcastic for a bit....

You don't think an airplane crashed into the Pentagon? Where did that missing airplane go?

Did George Bush Sr. shoot down that airplane?

Did the Sr. get all them people to go into witness protection program for a million dollars?

Did the CIA shoot down that plane, over somewhere that it wasn't seen by anybody?

Does the CIA have their own secret stash of military establishments that they could actually shoot down an airliner without having the military do it for them?

If the military were to do it for them, you're talking about the expansion of a secret not being a secret growing exponentially in the amount of folks that know it.

Was the solicitor general lying to us when he told us that he spoke to his wife who died on that flight that hit the pentagon?

So you think the super secret government knew all about 9/11, let them do it, and wanted to exploit the opportunity to hit some anti-terrorism part of the Pentagon by shooting down an airline that nobody has any witness of and then shooting a missile into this section of the Pentagon????

Where did the plane go (and more importantly all the people) that didn't hit the Pentagon?????

The problem with you conspiracy nuts is that you ruin your credibility and when you really do discover something that is the truth and important, nobody fucking believes you because you spend your life throwing conspiracy theory against conspiracy theory against the wall to see what sticks.


.....HOlY shit....I just figured out that Forkem is actually Mel Gibson......

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Anytime someone questions 9-11, immediatly they are conspiracy freaks who think Bush was the mastermind. I never quite got that. I am not satisfied with the bullshit story the government 'investigation' came up with. An independent investigation is required.

I also dislike how society uses the term "Truther" to describe these individuals as if asking questions and seeking truth is taboo.

[JuiceTheGator]

Originally Posted by MarkOU

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Anytime someone questions 9-11, immediatly they are conspiracy freaks who think Bush was the mastermind. I never quite got that. I am not satisfied with the bullshit story the government 'investigation' came up with. An independent investigation is required.

I also dislike how society uses the term "Truther" to describe these individuals as if asking questions and seeking truth is taboo.

I would assume, then, you also disapprove of the term "Birther" to describe those simply asking questions about the man we elected president but know very little about his past. I can't think of any major political or celebrity figure whom we know less about. Yet, those who ask simple questions are somehow crazed conspiracy theorists.

[huskers1217]

Originally Posted by Driaz

So what happened to the airplane then????

Is America Airlines in on this conspiracy as well that they didn't lose an airplane? Do you know how many people would have to know what happened for them to pull this conspiracy theory off????

Do you know how fucking impossible it would be for not one of them to rat the whole thing out?????

The government sucks at covering shit up (thankfully for the citizenry)....

Look at the Pat Tillman story the government tried to sell us......why they tried to deliberately distort the facts still makes me WTF over.....The amount of people that knew the truth would of been on a scale of probably 1% of the people that would have to know the CIA was behind 9/11......and yet the truth surfaced that he was killed in a friendly fire incident....

To me the man is still a hero, regardless of how he died, so that was just beyond stupid for the government to try and lie to us about the facts of it.

When I was in the Navy, we lost a helicopter one night doing training off the coast near the Marine base Camp Pendleton. The pilot came off the deck wrong and clipped off one of my 30 foot HF antennas. (I was the HF technician, I didn't actually own the antenna, just the responsibility of maintaining it) Helo went in the drink, we never recovered one of the 4 mens bodies who sacrificed their lives that night for our country.

To you conspiracy nuts that didn't happen, and those men were probably shot by the CIA because they knew something. Hell, I didn't actually see the helicopter crash, we never recovered their bodies......maybe that pilot was the one who flew the imaginary plane into the Pentagon????

The problem with you conspiracy guys is that you simply just ask questions. When someone like me responds to your questions, you think (mostly rightly so in my particular case) we're a condescending prick or something. Then you accuse us of being uninformed because we don't have all these questions. Your questions have been answered. I don't know what to tell you if you don't have the capacity to accept the answers. I'm not someone who has a vast amount of trust in the government myself, but you're just being ridiculous by trying to claim some clandestine arm of the secret government was behind 9/11.

The thing with secrets is that their ability to be compromised grows exponentially with the number of people that know them. The sheer number of people that would have to be in the know to have some clandestine government operation pull off an operation of the magnitude of 9/11 is so enormous it would be fucking impossible to keep it a secret.

You conspiracy guys continue to amaze me. I don't at all believe you're a moron or I wouldn't be wasting my time talking to you. I just can't wrap my head around why some people believe the government or a secret subset that really controls the country can do all this impossible shit. Your questions have all been answered, you just choose not to accept the answers. You guys become the boy who cried wolf. When you do actually rightly challenge bullshit answers from the government, nobody fucking believes you anymore. Don't know if I was too drunk last night to convey that point properly, but that's where I threw in the Mel Gibson reference to the movie "Conspiracy Theory."

As to the JFK file, I would be shocked if it said anything other then Oswalt killed JFK.....So this secret government entity does all this shit, and you think they would document it in a secret file that won't be revealed for 200 years? Why would they document anything? If it was another separate government entity that did the documentation, why would they agree to keep it secret for 200 years instead of outing the government agency that killed JFK? Wow, actually I can think of a good answer for that last question. Can you? Now you got me thinking like a conspiracy guy....

u better watch yourself driaz...

the alien we have at area 51 will come after you.....

[olympicoscar]

Originally Posted by JuiceTheGator

I would assume, then, you also disapprove of the term "Birther" to describe those simply asking questions about the man we elected president but know very little about his past. I can't think of any major political or celebrity figure whom we know less about. Yet, those who ask simple questions are somehow crazed conspiracy theorists.

The reason your seen as a wingnut is because all of the crazy theories are standard material on right wing conspiracy websites. The birther nonsense, the teleprompter nonsense, the antichrist nonsense, the Muslim nonsense, the questioning of whether the president is a Christian, the Socialist nonsense, etc.

It's one thing to ask a simple question, but when it's answered and with proof, it's time to drop the subject.

However that's not going to happen. The same dirty tricks people who worked on Kerry, will attempt to repeat their actions against Obama. If you think this election has been "dirty" to date, wait until the fall campaign starts.

[JuiceTheGator]

Originally Posted by olympicoscar

The reason your seen as a wingnut is because all of the crazy theories are standard material on right wing conspiracy websites. The birther nonsense, the teleprompter nonsense, the antichrist nonsense, the Muslim nonsense, the questioning of whether the president is a Christian, the Socialist nonsense, etc.

It's one thing to ask a simple question, but when it's answered and with proof, it's time to drop the subject.

However that's not going to happen. The same dirty tricks people who worked on Kerry, will attempt to repeat their actions against Obama. If you think this election has been "dirty" to date, wait until the fall campaign starts.

Case in point, you're blind and deaf to anything against your messiah.

Dirty tricks on Kerry? He applied for 3 purple hearts in 3 months having never bled except a scrape on his ass from his own hand grenade. The world would have let it slide too if he wouldn't have bragged about his loyal service daily and in detail. He's a phoney and got called on it. How is that conspiracy or "dirty?" LOL @ you for being such an apologist - have you no shame at all?

[olympicoscar]

Originally Posted by JuiceTheGator

Case in point, you're blind and deaf to anything against your messiah.

Dirty tricks on Kerry? He applied for 3 purple hearts in 3 months having never bled except a scrape on his ass from his own hand grenade. The world would have let it slide too if he wouldn't have bragged about his loyal service daily and in detail. He's a phoney and got called on it. How is that conspiracy or "dirty?" LOL @ you for being such an apologist - have you no shame at all?

I did not support Kerry, nor did I vote for him. I'm just aware of the ridiculous lies that were used against him. My differences with Kerry involved the anti-war statements he made after he came back.

Like all presidents, Obama is not perfect, but he has been a victim of an organized attempt to repeatedly smear him with nothing but lies.

[JuiceTheGator]

Originally Posted by olympicoscar

I did not support Kerry, nor did I vote for him. I'm just aware of the ridiculous lies that were used against him. My differences with Kerry involved the anti-war statements he made after he came back.

Like all presidents, Obama is not perfect, but he has been a victim of an organized attempt to repeatedly smear him with nothing but lies.

OK...which "rediculous lies" about Kerry are you referring?

Which lies about Obama? You mean like people hypothecating about his past because he won't release any info?

The bottom line is there were no lies about Kerry and Obama's past should be vigorously investigated...of course. So, stop your bullshitting.

[olympicoscar]

Originally Posted by JuiceTheGator

OK...which "rediculous lies" about Kerry are you referring?

Which lies about Obama? You mean like people hypothecating about his past because he won't release any info?

The bottom line is there were no lies about Kerry and Obama's past should be vigorously investigated...of course. So, stop your bullshitting.

Remember the Swift Boat crew? The participants were identified a long time ago. All of the wingnut lies I listed on post 45 are the ones I'm talking about. There is nothing to investigate. They appear in virtually every right wing blog.

[JuiceTheGator]

Originally Posted by olympicoscar

Remember the Swift Boat crew? The participants were identified a long time ago. All of the wingnut lies I listed on post 45 are the ones I'm talking about. There is nothing to investigate. They appear in virtually every right wing blog.

Yes. The Swift Boat guys served with Kerry and wanted the world to know he's full of shit. That's reality. Lies are what Dan Rather got caught creating about W.

Nothing to investigate? ??? You're insane to think we know about Obama and that we have no right to know more.

[olympicoscar]

Originally Posted by JuiceTheGator

Yes. The Swift Boat guys served with Kerry and wanted the world to know he's full of shit. That's reality. Lies are what Dan Rather got caught creating about W.

Nothing to investigate? ??? You're insane to think we know about Obama and that we have no right to know more.

The Swift Boat boys were a paid "hit squad." Plain and simple. Though I have zero love for Kerry it was obvious what they were doing.

So you want to investigate whether Obama was born in this country??? What a joke. That's been put to sleep. You want to investigate whether Obama uses a Teleprompter? Bush, Clinton, Bush1 and Reagan used teleprompters. It's called modern technology. You want to investigate whether Obama is the Antichrist? Good use of federal funds, eh. Let's not forget whether he's a Christian or a Muslim.

Keep it up Juice, you look more like a fool all the time.

[HuskerInSecLand]

Originally Posted by ForkEmBucky

Yes. All of the other Husker fans who acted like kindergarteners after Wisconsin won. Maybe you all just didn't notice anything was wrong because you treat every fan base the same way when your team loses.

THERE IT IS!!!!

I was waiting for it and like always you finally revealed your butthurt.

Yeah we were like kindergartners when we came over and congratulated your fans on your board for a game well played. We were kindergartners when we admitted repeatedly and still do that Wisky (not you notice but your team) kicked our ass.

We got no problem admitting when we are beat and no problem extending a hand of congratulations to the victor.


You though again have a problem because we did not feel that your stadium was the greatest thing since sliced bread and are still so butt hurt about that that you can't converse with a husker fan without getting your panties all in a wad.

[beardown07]

Anybody who believes the official 9/11 report, is ignoring massive amounts of evidence. I encourage you to google Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth.

People that don't believe the conspiracy, explain 3 things to me. Tower 7. The molten lave found at the site for up to six weeks later, and lastly how does the most heavily surveilled building on the planet not have any credible footage of the a plane hitting it??

[beardown07]

This is Larry Silverstein, the Lease-holder of the towers. This is the evening news on 9/11. Less than 12 hours after the attacks. This is Larry Silverstein FLAT-OUT admitting that tower 7 was a controlled demolition. "We just told em' to pull it". That is a controlled emolition term. Any idea how long it takes to set up a controlled demolition? More than 12 hours. Larry had convienently taken out insurance SPECIFIC to terrorist attacks in July 2001. He made BILLIONS of dollars off the attacks. And didn't have to SPEND billions to renovate, due to the high amount of asbestos in the building. There have been 3 skyscraper fall from fire in the history of skyscrapers. Tower 1. Tower 2. And Tower 7.

Anybody who believes some camel-jockey's with boxcutters made NORAD stand down for an hour and a half is naive. When Payne Stewarts private plane, lost oxygen, there were f-16s on each side of it within 7 minutes. Theses planes veered off course for over an hour, AND were headed directly for the white house?? Come on guys...wake up.

[beardown07]

Not to mention the traces of thermite found in multiple samples of the debris.

[beardown07]

Here's an interesting coincidence. The Company that installed the electronic security system in the twin towers, is a company by the name of Securacom. (they have since changed their name(wonder why?) to stratesec or something like that.) Anyway, said company spent from late 1996 to 2000, (specifically, the contract ended September
11th, 2001...no joke) installing said "security system". Two of the higher-up of the company....Marvin P. Bush and Wirt D. Walker. Brother, and first cousin to GW, respectively. Just sayin...

[rmilia1]

Originally Posted by sooner78wakeboard.

I don't know, have you seen some of the way these people defended thier parties or basically trash the other one?

If someone calls out a political idiot, you can acknowledge or deny. But don't ignore the politications who are clowns and just use their position for power.

I think the majority of the country falls in the middle on most issues. Its just that the far left and far right are so loud and obnoxious that they get most of the attention. Sadly the public at large has become so disenfranchised with party politics that alot of them could care less and dont even vote. This means that our parties are moving further and further away from each other. I mean you cant be a moderate anymore or you get crushed by the other party AND your own party.

[rmilia1]

Originally Posted by olympicoscar

The Swift Boat boys were a paid "hit squad." Plain and simple. Though I have zero love for Kerry it was obvious what they were doing.

So you want to investigate whether Obama was born in this country??? What a joke. That's been put to sleep. You want to investigate whether Obama uses a Teleprompter? Bush, Clinton, Bush1 and Reagan used teleprompters. It's called modern technology. You want to investigate whether Obama is the Antichrist? Good use of federal funds, eh. Let's not forget whether he's a Christian or a Muslim.

Keep it up Juice, you look more like a fool all the time.

He is both depending on the argument that the far right is trying to make. He is a Muslim MOST of the time unless they are talking about his ties to Reverend Wright, then he is just a CRAZY ass Christian.