What the frack!

potzer25 · 11-09-2011, 11:44 AM

Oil Executive: Military-Style 'Psy Ops' Experience Applied

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“Download the U.S. Army-slash-Marine Corps Counterinsurgency Manual, because we are dealing with an insurgency,” Carmichael said. “There’s a lot of good lessons in there and coming from a military background, I found the insight in that extremely remarkable.”

Tale of the Tape - CNBC

JuiceTheGator · 11-09-2011, 12:43 PM

lol and the greenie weenies - it's fake dude.

potzer25 · 11-09-2011, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JuiceTheGator

lol and the greenie weenies - it's fake dude.

what is fake? fracking? psy-ops? cnbc?

JuiceTheGator · 11-09-2011, 01:03 PM

The audio is totally fake! The guys talking are college kids. You think industry meetings sound like that? Executives speak like that?? Jeezuz

potzer25 · 11-09-2011, 02:17 PM

Starting at 1:30 - yea, I can completely believe that executives at an industry meeting talk just like that...

JuiceTheGator · 11-09-2011, 06:36 PM

There is not a facepalm moticon large enough for this thread. Therefore, I give you a touche':

potzer25 · 11-09-2011, 10:23 PM

Catching up and now I see this:
Guest Post: U.S. Government Confirms Link Between Earthquakes and Hydraulic Fracturing | ZeroHedge

Sooner3.14 · 11-09-2011, 10:40 PM

Geologists in Oklahoma have stated that the injection wells in Lincoln county, OK are too shallow to have caused any seismic activity related to the recent quakes. The wells are approximately 2 miles above the fracture zone.

potzer25 · 11-09-2011, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Sooner3.14

Geologists in Oklahoma have stated that the injection wells in Lincoln county, OK are too shallow to have caused any seismic activity related to the recent quakes. The wells are approximately 2 miles above the fracture zone.

maybe. I hope so...it may all just be coincidence and simply correlation with no causality but.......

I would not be surprised if forcibly cracking the Earth deep down in order to force the release of trapped gas...has very bad negative unintended consequences.

Leader O'Cola · 11-09-2011, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by potzer25

maybe. I hope so...it may all just be coincidence and simply correlation with no causality but.......

I would not be surprised if forcibly cracking the Earth deep down in order to force the release of trapped gas...has very bad negative unintended consequences.

Video - Breaking News Videos from CNN.com

besides stuff like this ?

potzer25 · 01-19-2012, 05:45 PM

Guest Post: "Don't Frack Me Up" | ZeroHedge

potzer25 · 02-21-2012, 12:08 PM

Why Not Frack? by Bill McKibben | The New York Review of Books

Bone · 02-22-2012, 08:43 AM

JuiceTheGator · 02-27-2012, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by potzer25

Catching up and now I see this:
Guest Post: U.S. Government Confirms Link Between Earthquakes and Hydraulic Fracturing | ZeroHedge

Fracking is going to save all our lives. If they can lubricate the frack layer with this process, the tiny tremors will relieve pressure build-up and prevent a huge, instant release of energy as a massive earthquake. Those against fracking, then, must be pro huge earthquakes.

We should be fracking all over to prevent a catastrophic earthquake and collecting all the fossil fuels just as a positive side effect.

JuiceTheGator · 02-27-2012, 11:49 AM

Watch this...you'll blame it on frackin' but it's quite a conspiracy.

Conspiracy Theorists unite!

potzer25 · 02-27-2012, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JuiceTheGator

Fracking is going to save all our lives. If they can lubricate the frack layer with this process, the tiny tremors will relieve pressure build-up and prevent a huge, instant release of energy as a massive earthquake. Those against fracking, then, must be pro huge earthquakes.

We should be fracking all over to prevent a catastrophic earthquake and collecting all the fossil fuels just as a positive side effect.

I have already thought of that and it's possible...but we don't know enough to control it and the locations being fracked with are not typically at risk of faults. Also when earthquakes do happen in those regions they are not large or devastating events. It's not like we are causing minor earthquakes on faults with well documented event cycles and releasing energy in smaller increments... The most likely outcome is we are breaking up relatively stable regions of the earth's crust and introducing additional entropy into an already unstable environment...it's like throwing firecrackers onto the floor of rave - expecting a good outcome is foolish...

JuiceTheGator · 02-27-2012, 01:07 PM

It was a little tongue in cheek. However, the 2nd biggest earthquake after that one in Alaska was the New Madras new St. Louis. Studies have also shown pressure to be building there. They'd better squirt some lube down there.

JuiceTheGator · 02-27-2012, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JuiceTheGator

Watch this...you'll blame it on frackin' but it's quite a conspiracy.

Conspiracy Theorists unite!

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Originally Posted by potzer25

I have already thought of that and it's possible...but we don't know enough to control it and the locations being fracked with are not typically at risk of faults. Also when earthquakes do happen in those regions they are not large or devastating events. It's not like we are causing minor earthquakes on faults with well documented event cycles and releasing energy in smaller increments... The most likely outcome is we are breaking up relatively stable regions of the earth's crust and introducing additional entropy into an already unstable environment...it's like throwing firecrackers onto the floor of rave - expecting a good outcome is foolish...

I figured you wouldn't click that link so I went and got the vid for your lazy ass...because you'll say "whoa!"

tech_iceman · 02-27-2012, 08:19 PM

I fraced a well today

tech_iceman · 02-27-2012, 08:35 PM

11-09-2011, 12:43 PM	#2
JuiceTheGator Engorged Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Sw Florida Posts: 11,339 Rep Power: 32508	lol and the greenie weenies - it's fake dude. __________________ All I really want is to learn something new and interesting. Surprise me dumbass.

11-09-2011, 01:03 PM	#4
JuiceTheGator Engorged Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Sw Florida Posts: 11,339 Rep Power: 32508	The audio is totally fake! The guys talking are college kids. You think industry meetings sound like that? Executives speak like that?? Jeezuz __________________ All I really want is to learn something new and interesting. Surprise me dumbass.

11-09-2011, 02:17 PM	#5
potzer25 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: SF East Bay Posts: 3,405 Rep Power: 12091	Starting at 1:30 - yea, I can completely believe that executives at an industry meeting talk just like that... __________________ pearls before swine

11-09-2011, 06:36 PM	#6
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11-09-2011, 10:23 PM	#7
potzer25 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: SF East Bay Posts: 3,405 Rep Power: 12091	Catching up and now I see this: Guest Post: U.S. Government Confirms Link Between Earthquakes and Hydraulic Fracturing \| ZeroHedge __________________ pearls before swine

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Sooner3.14 Aces & eights Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: 37.0 N 100.9 W elevation 2881' Posts: 11,473 Rep Power: 10744	Geologists in Oklahoma have stated that the injection wells in Lincoln county, OK are too shallow to have caused any seismic activity related to the recent quakes. The wells are approximately 2 miles above the fracture zone. __________________ Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach him how to fish and he will sit in a boat and drink beer all day.

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02-21-2012, 12:08 PM	#12
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02-27-2012, 11:49 AM	#15
JuiceTheGator Engorged Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Sw Florida Posts: 11,339 Rep Power: 32508	Watch this...you'll blame it on frackin' but it's quite a conspiracy. Conspiracy Theorists unite! __________________ All I really want is to learn something new and interesting. Surprise me dumbass.

02-27-2012, 01:07 PM	#17
JuiceTheGator Engorged Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Sw Florida Posts: 11,339 Rep Power: 32508	It was a little tongue in cheek. However, the 2nd biggest earthquake after that one in Alaska was the New Madras new St. Louis. Studies have also shown pressure to be building there. They'd better squirt some lube down there. __________________ All I really want is to learn something new and interesting. Surprise me dumbass.

02-27-2012, 08:19 PM	#19
tech_iceman #winning Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: West Texas Posts: 17,987 Rep Power: 8993	I fraced a well today __________________ I just wanna

02-27-2012, 08:35 PM	#20
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