Why is Saban asking Jim McElwain to coach the BCSCG?

Red Elephant101 · 12-17-2011, 06:34 PM

This just seems like a plan for disaster here, it has never worked well for anybody before.

We have time to make a change and let Mike Groh move over and coach the game, Someone else can take up the WR coaching slack.

I just feel this is a bad omen following us into Nola...

rolltide14_0 · 12-17-2011, 07:51 PM

Because it would be even worse to change coaches right before the title game, maybe a lower tier bowl, but not the NC. Besides, Jim McElwain needs this championship win on his resume, I think he will be more prepared for this game than ever, it's his last game with us.

CrimsonFanSince94 · 12-17-2011, 08:24 PM

Finish strong

BamaInHoustonRTR · 12-17-2011, 09:49 PM

Cant think of a worse decision then trying to change OC's right before your National Championship game. Good thing our fans dont run our program.

Red Elephant101 · 12-17-2011, 10:02 PM

I know bringing this up will offend a few people in the fan base, but I do think it's an honest question that merits discussion.

Is Jim just coaching for media attention for CSU? God knows he needs it at 9-27 Ft. Colorado State.

Remember the bowls Dan Mullens and CMR coached after being named to other schools as HC's?

We all know how that worked out...

The Bama offense is the simplest one in the SEC so it's not like it would take a rocket scientist to call the plays in.

BamaInHoustonRTR · 12-18-2011, 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Elephant101

The Bama offense is the simplest one in the SEC so it's not like it would take a rocket scientist to call the plays in.

I take offense to it bc its a much more complicated offense then most give it credit for bc they dont understand all the blocking TE movements presnap and how those movements greatly impact blocking assignments that create mismatches as well as move the defense around taking them out one of look or revealing the defense they were trying to run man/ zone etc.

Red Elephant101 · 12-18-2011, 07:45 AM

The only mismatches it creates is when they play a mismatched team...IMO I mean basicly I see three plays outside of running TR (alone and not in the Bama ball tradition) up the middle, the strong sweep to the short side of the field ( which works about once in the last 5 games ).

That bubble pass where all the receivers run to the middle of the field. and on third and long that wild elephant play with TR acting as QB.

That was our entire offensive scheme against LSU.

The problem lies when you face a talented, well coached defensive team that Von Schlieffen plan fails every time.

I know we had the tight end play, but once pressure was applied to McSack his tunnel vision was narrowed beyond his ability to see the corners.

Honestly you should be able to see that our talent and defense won the games this year and overcame a mediocre offensive scheme whether it is Jims fault or Sabans overreaching meddling either way it is still Jims fault ultimately if he let Saban bully him and not stand up for his part of the project.

That simple.

BadMotoWeazal · 12-18-2011, 09:12 AM

I'm glad he's gonna get to coach the NC game. He's earned that. That being said, I'm looking forward to what a new OC will bring to the table.

metal_frk_334 · 12-18-2011, 09:58 AM

He will be motivated for this game. It's the National Championship. You can't really believe that he won't give his best effort.

OnlyCrimson · 12-18-2011, 08:28 PM

I was very happy to finally hear that McElwain was leaving but it is better for him and a lot better for Bama to have him coaching in the National Championship Game.

CrimsonFanSince94 · 01-12-2012, 11:23 PM

He did a very good job..

Red Elephant101 · 01-13-2012, 06:47 PM

Yep, I was wrong this time ole Saban loosened the reigns a little and the light came on.

12-17-2011, 06:34 PM	#1
Red Elephant101 Wahoo Predator Join Date: May 2010 Location: Thrasherville Posts: 587 Rep Power: 1616	Why is Saban asking Jim McElwain to coach the BCSCG? This just seems like a plan for disaster here, it has never worked well for anybody before. We have time to make a change and let Mike Groh move over and coach the game, Someone else can take up the WR coaching slack. I just feel this is a bad omen following us into Nola... __________________ SEC speed is something, but Alabama Power will light your ass up!

12-17-2011, 07:51 PM	#2
rolltide14_0 Vagina Inspector Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Gulf Breeze Posts: 3,587 Rep Power: 10039	Because it would be even worse to change coaches right before the title game, maybe a lower tier bowl, but not the NC. Besides, Jim McElwain needs this championship win on his resume, I think he will be more prepared for this game than ever, it's his last game with us. __________________ “Be more concerned with your character than with your reputation. Your character is what you really are while your reputation is merely what others think you are.” - Dale Carnegie

12-17-2011, 08:24 PM	#3
CrimsonFanSince94 Black Mamba Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Mad? Posts: 7,764 Rep Power: 42818	Finish strong __________________ If you want hard and fast FACTS, read ESPN. -46&2

12-17-2011, 10:02 PM	#5
Red Elephant101 Wahoo Predator Join Date: May 2010 Location: Thrasherville Posts: 587 Rep Power: 1616	I know bringing this up will offend a few people in the fan base, but I do think it's an honest question that merits discussion. Is Jim just coaching for media attention for CSU? God knows he needs it at 9-27 Ft. Colorado State. Remember the bowls Dan Mullens and CMR coached after being named to other schools as HC's? We all know how that worked out... The Bama offense is the simplest one in the SEC so it's not like it would take a rocket scientist to call the plays in. __________________ SEC speed is something, but Alabama Power will light your ass up! Last edited by Red Elephant101; 12-17-2011 at 10:05 PM.

12-18-2011, 07:45 AM	#7
Red Elephant101 Wahoo Predator Join Date: May 2010 Location: Thrasherville Posts: 587 Rep Power: 1616	The only mismatches it creates is when they play a mismatched team...IMO I mean basicly I see three plays outside of running TR (alone and not in the Bama ball tradition) up the middle, the strong sweep to the short side of the field ( which works about once in the last 5 games ). That bubble pass where all the receivers run to the middle of the field. and on third and long that wild elephant play with TR acting as QB. That was our entire offensive scheme against LSU. The problem lies when you face a talented, well coached defensive team that Von Schlieffen plan fails every time. I know we had the tight end play, but once pressure was applied to McSack his tunnel vision was narrowed beyond his ability to see the corners. Honestly you should be able to see that our talent and defense won the games this year and overcame a mediocre offensive scheme whether it is Jims fault or Sabans overreaching meddling either way it is still Jims fault ultimately if he let Saban bully him and not stand up for his part of the project. That simple. __________________ SEC speed is something, but Alabama Power will light your ass up!

12-17-2011, 09:49 PM	#4
BamaInHoustonRTR Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 168 Rep Power: 175	Cant think of a worse decision then trying to change OC's right before your National Championship game. Good thing our fans dont run our program.

12-18-2011, 09:12 AM	#8
BadMotoWeazal Got Dirt? Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: ALA-FUCKING-BAMA Posts: 3,768 Rep Power: 11514	I'm glad he's gonna get to coach the NC game. He's earned that. That being said, I'm looking forward to what a new OC will bring to the table. __________________ Never run out of real estate, ideas and traction at the same time.

12-18-2011, 09:58 AM	#9
metal_frk_334 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,153 Rep Power: 758	He will be motivated for this game. It's the National Championship. You can't really believe that he won't give his best effort.

12-18-2011, 08:28 PM	#10
OnlyCrimson Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 420 Rep Power: 136	I was very happy to finally hear that McElwain was leaving but it is better for him and a lot better for Bama to have him coaching in the National Championship Game. __________________ Trent Richardson 208 yards, AuBarn 160 yards, barners

01-12-2012, 11:23 PM	#11
CrimsonFanSince94 Black Mamba Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Mad? Posts: 7,764 Rep Power: 42818	He did a very good job.. __________________ If you want hard and fast FACTS, read ESPN. -46&2

01-13-2012, 06:47 PM	#12
Red Elephant101 Wahoo Predator Join Date: May 2010 Location: Thrasherville Posts: 587 Rep Power: 1616	Yep, I was wrong this time ole Saban loosened the reigns a little and the light came on. __________________ SEC speed is something, but Alabama Power will light your ass up!